Mr. Rogers, also known as Fred Rogers, the host of Mister Rogers’ Neighborhood, was not a sniper. He was also not a Navy SEAL. But variations on that urban myth began late in his life, and the screenwriters of A Beautiful Day in The Neighborhood — which earned Tom Hanks an Oscar nomination for his take on Mister Rogers — have finally figured out where the rumors began.
Screenwriters Noah Harpster and Micah Fitzerman-Blue sat down with the MovieMaker Interviews podcast, along with Tom Junod, whose beautiful Esquire magazine profile of Rogers helped inspire A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood. You can listen on Apple or Spotify or right here:
First things first: Junod told us he knows Mr. Rogers wasn’t a sniper, because he once saw Rogers naked, one morning when they went swimming.
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You may wonder what nudity has to do with being a sniper. As Junod explains, the “Mr. Rogers was a sniper” urban myth was predicated on the idea that Rogers always wore long-sleeve sweaters to conceal tattoos that tallied his many kills.
The notion may sound ridiculous to you—and it should—but the myth is so persistent that the U.S. Navy SEALs have denied it online:
“While there are rumors that Mr. Rogers, the host of internationally acclaimed TV show for children—Mister Roger’s Neighborhood, served as a Navy SEAL or a Marine Scout Sniper during the Vietnam era with a large number of confirmed kills, we have to state it is false. Mr. Rogers never served in the military.”
But at the very end of our interview, Harpster revealed that in a decade of research on Rogers, he and Fitzerman-Blue learned the source of the urban myth. It turns out there was another Fred Rogers.
“So there was actually a guy named Fred Rogers, who was a marine, who was a sharpshooter, who started a security business. And he for a moment put up FredRogers.com as his business,” Harpster said. “And it was almost immediately taken down. But people found that.”
And so began a lot of confusion… and people spreading a myth just because it was funny.
The latest MovieMaker interviews podcast includes not only our interview with Harpster, Fitzerman-Blue and Junod, but also Daniel Kaluuya, star of the new Queen & Slim.
Here are some highlights of the episode, with timestamps:
1:15: Daniel Kaluuya interview begins. Audio is dodgy for a few seconds. It gets better at…
2:14: Audio issue fixed. Enjoy Daniel Kaluuya’s awesome British accent in all its glory.
3:30: Why he knew he wanted to play Slim.
4:54: Why “Queen & Slim” is more “Thelma & Louise” than “Bonnie & Clyde.”
10:01: He weighs in on the supposed fight between cinema and the Marvel Universe
13:40: He discusses the upcoming film “Jesus Was My Homeboy,” in which he’ll play Black Panther activist Fred Hampton.
16:05: Interview with “A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood” screenwriters Noah Harpster and Micah Fitzerman-Blue, and Tom Junod, whose Esquire article “Can You Say… Hero?” helped inspire the film.
17:15: Let’s talk about anger.
21:00: How much is Mathew Rhys’ “A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood” character, Esquire journalist Lloyd Vogel, based on Esquire journalist Tom Junod?
26:20: Would Fred Rogers be disillusioned by the world today?
26:40: About that Navy SEAL/sniper thing
28:50: How Noah discovered Mister Rogers was “a warlock who speaks toddler.”
30: At one point Mr. Rogers’ estate said there will “never ever be a Mister Rogers movie.”
34:10: Where the Mister Rogers sniper urban myth came from.
Tom Hanks earned an Oscar nomination for Best Supporting Actor for his role as Rogers, though the award went to Brad Pitt for Once Upon a Time… in Hollywood.
A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood is now available on demand.