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Titanic’s Cinematographer Russell Carpenter

Rush hour at the Hamburger Hamlet on Hollywood Boulevard. On a street crammed with tourists, nobody seems to notice a brand new Academy Award winner slip through the doors. Russell Carpenter, the tall, lanky, Oscar-winning cinematographer of Titanic, has come to dinner to discuss the movie and his future. No face lifts or butt tucks for this guy. Being humble has kept him young and his clear eyes keep contact with me throughout the interview. Carpenter only looks away to reflect, but never out the window at the gigantic Titanic billboard that drifts above the star-strewn sidewalk in front of the Mann Chinese Theater.

Christopher Zack (CZ): James Cameron originally started shooting Titanic with a different DP. How did you end up getting the job?

Russell Carpenter (RC): I was involved in another project at the time and I got an exploratory phone call from John Landau, who basically said that things weren’t going well on the set. Evidently there was a lot of tension and a lot of difference in working style between Jim (Cameron) and Caleb (Deschanel) and he didn’t know how long things were gonna go before one person or the other said he’d had it. Landau asked what I was doing, and I told him I was involved in a shoot. With the help of my wife, who was instrumental in putting this all together, I arranged a situation where I could exit the film I was on if I could bring another director of photography on. I can’t thank the director and the producer of that film enough because they said, “This is a wonderful opportunity.” It was such a great gift they gave me because the studio could have said, “No way.” I was able to exit the previous film and I had two weeks to get ready for Titanic. I had an advantage because, at one point, I was the front runner for the job, so I had been thinking about what I would do.

CZ: How did you prepare for Titanic in those two weeks before shooting commenced?

RC: I had done some research, but in the two weeks that I had, I looked at the films that I liked - Heaven’s Gate, Howard’s End, The Natural. There is something in those films that I really like and I thought I could bring a bit of it to Titanic. Then I looked at the American impressionists and I looked at (portrait painter) John Singer Sargent’s work. That was very influential in terms of how I felt the interiors should look for Titanic. The first thing I did is that I went to the art department to research the drawings that they had done. I also went to the visual effects department because the effects were so complex and everything had to be budgeted ahead of time. This gave me a very good idea of what Jim’s concept was. Aesthetically, we had very little time to talk. And what we really arrived at aesthetically came out of the makeup tests that I did a few days prior to the start of production.

CZ: On a project of this magnitude, personal ideas of what will end up on the screen can be drastically different. Did James Cameron’s initial vision for Titanic match your own?

RC: Luckily, mercifully, there wasn’t a huge difference. Also with Jim, if he doesn’t like something, he’ll tell you right away. He’ll tell you, “That stinks - that’s not what I had in mind.” And I’ll say, “well let’s look at it this way.”

CZ: You’ve worked with Cameron before, on True Lies. How is working with James Cameron different than working with other directors you’ve done pictures with?

RC: I’ve worked with all sorts of different directors; on one end of the spectrum there’s the writer/director who knows virtually nothing about technique, where cameras go and so forth. That’s one end. The other end of the spectrum, working with Jim, is that he knows a lot about everything. He knows a lot about photography, lighting, set construction, engineering. He’s going to have very strong opinions about what everybody’s doing. You just have to get used to that. The trade-off is that you are probably working in one of the most challenging environments you can work in.

CZ: Being a proficient technical director, what kind of freedom does Cameron allow you in manipulating the cameras?

RC: Jim will set the cameras. And I will say, “I think there’s another opportunity to put another camera over here.” And Jim will say “Yeah, why don’t you try that.” But he’s definitely going to block the cameras, set positions. He’ll have very strong opinions about lenses. That’s part of the territory that you’re not going to run into with many directors. The big thing with Jim is that he’s going to ask for the world. He’s going to want everything and he’s going to want it as good as you can possibly give it to him. And sometimes those demands come without as much warning as you want, but you just have to deal with that pressure and do the best you can even though Jim’s going to be ready to go before you can physically get there. But that’s just part of it. Even with some of the trying circumstances you get into during the day, you feel like, “Wow!” “There was a great shot!” I’d rather have it that way than just be easy.

CZ: Do you have any plans to work together again in the near future?

RC: Nothing right now. I don’t think there’s anything written.

CZ: You’ve said that you want to work on smaller films, possibly independent features?

RC: After Titanic, I did a film called The Negotiator, which was basically a hostage situation movie with Samuel L. Jackson, and Kevin Spacey. What attracted me to that project was a director that I liked and the challenge of seeing if I could make something interesting that basically happens in two rooms. I’m reading scripts now that are very character motivated and they’re more about the extremes in human behavior - how good people can be and how bad people can be. And the drama happens more within the arena of the person’s face. That’s really exciting to me. Nothing that I’m reading involves blowing anything up or city blocks toppling over. What was so exciting to me about Titanic is that I was able to do a period piece. With a background in science fiction, action, and horror pictures and all the way up the food chain, that was really an exciting opportunity.

CZ: What current cinematographers have really caught your eye?

RC: I learn from everybody. Almost anybody, on a given day, is capable of doing something totally brilliant. I’ll go see these small films, and there will be a section in there that just blows me away! I’m always learning from whoever’s out there. The guy who shot Like Water for Chocolate, Steven Bernsein, for instance.

CZ: Starting with your public television days, who are some of the DP’s that have really inspired you and helped lead you to where you are today, aesthetically?

RC: In terms of mentors, for me, the top of the list is Storaro. He turned everybody around. He said, “This is what’s possible to do with lighting.” One of the most inventive people that I’ve ever seen is Conrad Hall. I also admire Jordan Cronenweth, Haskell Wexler, Caleb Deschanel, Owen Roizman, Allen Daviau.

CZ: You mentioned painters before as well?

RC: In terms of painters: Caravaggio, Vermeer. In terms of impact and fun of cinema: Godzilla, King Kong, Rodan. As a kid, I loved that stuff because it was fun. I think Titanic, absurdly, is a synthesis of those two sensibilities in me.

CZ: What words of wisdom do you have for DP’s not yet quite established?

RC: They should do whatever they can to get a reel. A reel that shows what they can do, a dynamic style. If they’ve got a great style, that will be their first and most important selling card. They should learn to work at speed, because on low-budget things you have to learn how to come up with an effective style under less than considerable conditions. The other thing, and I can’t stress this enough, is, that even though conditions are pretty bad and because of budgets people have to rush, you need to still to be as civil as you can to people because it really is about who you know. Word of mouth about people is tremendously important. Try hard to be as civil as you can.

CZ: How have things changed for you since you won that bald golden man, the ultimate success as a moviemaker?

RC: I don’t see it as the be all, end all. I actually liked the photography of some of the other nominees better. MM

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